The first major engagement - an analysis

Up until today, the campaigns of McCain and Obama have avoided a major conflict, in part because of the attention focused on flooding in the Midwest. (Donate here)

Thus far, the campaigns have conflicted on the proposed town halls, gas policy (Carter's 2nd term versus Bush's 3rd), taxation, the Supreme Court ruling, Obama's VP vetter, and the "9/10 mindset."

However, this story is different for a few reasons.

First, Obama clearly didn't fulfill his promise to sit down with McCain. There's nothing unusual about that in the context of Washington promises, but Obama's narrative is built in part on a rejection of the "old politics." Stories get more play if they augment or work against the narrative; that's why the fist bump was so widely covered as a showcase of his youth.

Second, the two campaigns seem to be in a fundamental disagreement about the facts, represented in the arguments between  Bob Bauer and Trevor Potter. This disagreement extends to the question of if Obama broke his word by refusing public money, something that I believe he did not, but can understand the room for various interpretations.

Third, this is a part of the McCain reformer narrative, and his extensive work with Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform. McCain's past makes this a viable issue, and because the DNC is suing McCain for violating public financing rules in the primary, this story will likely crop up again as discussion ensues on what this decision means about Obama, be he dealbreaker, reformer, or pragmatist.

As already mentioned here, Obama rolled out a new ad today; it will be interesting to see the story and the ad in future polling trends. If Obama got a post primary bump, an AP analysis that begins "Barack Obama chose winning over his word" might be the thing to end it.



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This disagreement extends to the question of if Obama broke his word by refusing public money, something that I believe he did not

Oh he did break it. But for reasons of being smart about the political landscape. why shy away from saying he broke it because the man made a brillant calculation. It wont hurt his feelings :)

why reward stupidity and him taking public funding would be stupidity if his donors are not pacs... it's we the people.


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by aliveandkickin on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:08:20 PM EST

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Yup. It's not about using the money as a cudgel, it's about being ready to mount defense anytime/anywhere.

Besides that, I absolutely welcome Democrats putting GOP in the position of whining about fairness. Every time they do that, you KNOW people think they look more wimpish. We won't lose this election because Obama looks too mean.


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by vcalzone on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:14:21 PM EST
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He didn't break his word at all, and by continuing to spread that falsehood you do him a disfavor.

He pledged to comply with public financing if an agreement could be reached with the other campaign.  An agreement could not be reached in which the Obama campaign was comfortable that McCain would attempt to keep the RNC and 527s in line.  Obama's so-called "word" was conditional from the get-go.

Please stop spreading lies.


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by mistersite on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:50:54 PM EST
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I really don't think people care. McCain is the one that has been holding thousand dollar fundraisers and stuff. He's also the one that took more money from large donors. I would pit Obama's (just a blind guess from what I've read) 200,000 $100 donors over John McCain's 10,000 $2,000 donors ANY day when it comes to ethics.

Not only that, as pointed out on Kos today, McCain, the gift that refuses to stop giving, praised Dean's usage of that system in 2004 as exactly what his campaign finance reform was designed to do.

I think it's wonderful that Howard Dean was able to use the Internet, $50, $75, $100 contributions.  That's what we want it to be all about.  We want average citizens to contribute small amounts of money, and that's a commitment to a campaign.  So I'm for that.  I think it's a great thing.  I think the Internet is going to change American politics for the better.


"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."
by vcalzone on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:08:48 PM EST

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You greatly over-exaggerate the effect that this story will have.  Months from now, nobody will even remember it.


by rfahey22 on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:15:21 PM EST

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FISA seems to have taken the spotlight today.


by Falsehood on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 04:35:06 PM EST
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It's not getting any traction now and I can't imagine it mattering in the long run.

This IS about winning.


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by spacemanspiff on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:30:13 PM EST

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Well, for those of us who liked Obama in the first place because of his commitment to process, it was a bit disappointing.

Not that I'm gonna lose too much sleep over it.  I would have liked him to do the town halls and agree to public financing, or at least not to have said he would if he didn't intend to.

It's not the hugest deal ever but I hope he doesn't do it again.


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by Koan on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:37:30 PM EST
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Uprated to counter an utterly ridiculous TR.


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by mistersite on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:51:41 PM EST
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Also uprated to counter a bullshit TR.


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Fri Jun 20, 2008 at 03:54:34 PM EST
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